The Red Room counts down the top 40 shows that have premiered in the last 10 years. This podcast covers Part 2 #20-1. You can listen to Part 1 which covers #40-21. We do comedy, drama, documentaries and talk shows. What will be #1? Listen to find out.
thirtysomething day 2017
Call it California, We are out of here.
After 2 years and 18 episodes, we present you the final episode of the thirtysomething podcast. We have been so lucky to interview just about everyone. If they weren’t on the podcast, we got them for the book, thirtysomething at thirty: an oral history.
September 29th, 2017 thirtysomething turns thirty. We were so lucky to be able to celebrate our favorite television show and help bring it to its own age. For our final episode Scott reads a bit of his introduction from his new book about the show, Carolyn and Scott read brand new statements from some of the cast and crew about the show turning 30. We even have a new one from an actor who was never on the podcast or the book! Then we say goodbye to all our fans of the podcast.
Finally, thank you to everyone who supported the show, the book and all the thirtysomething fun. It was great to meet all of you. Enjoy our final episode.
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Top 40 shows from 2007-2017 Part 1
The Red Room goes back to what it used to do, talking all kinds of TV. We decided to do a count down show like we used to in our early days. We countdown the top 40 shows that have premiered in the last 10 years. We ranked all the shows from 2007-2017 and we tell you the best 40. Listen to Part 1 which covers #40-21. We do comedy, drama, documentaries and talk shows. We love getting to talk about all kinds of shows. Enjoy an old fashion countdown show.
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Xander Interview Nicholas Brendon
Xander is here. We were able to interview Nicholas Brendon at Whedon Con 2017. He was able to give us about 25 minutes and we have a lively discussion. We play quite a bit so be ready for some comedy and sparring. Then we talk to 3 fans who attended the con. Enjoy one of our first interviews with a main cast member.
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2 Podcasts about Twin Peaks Part 18
We do things a bit differently on this Red Room. After weeks of listening to us argue and debate deep theory, we take a break to have a roundtable talk with 10 Twin Peaks fans. We throw out questions and go around and let some hard core life long fans have their say. We talk about most satisfying moments, best Black Lodge moments and our first thoughts on Parts 17-18. Look below for Episode 140 which also covers Twin Peaks
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We have another podcast, Episode 140 where Scott talks to Comic book artist/writer Jeff Lemire about Parts 17 & 18
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We’ve Been Given A Green Butt Skunk
Some people give flowers, some a Starbucks gift card, some an edible fruit arrangement. All are pretty good gifts from a co-worker. But, when Harry S. Truman was tasked with getting a going away present for a two-and-half-week visitor to his town, he settled on something a little bit different. Harry gave Special Agent Dale Cooper a “Green Butt Skunk” fishing lure. He explained that when those fish are heading up stream they are thinking of only one thing: SEX. Nothing can break their concentration more than a Green Butt Skunk. This summer I feel like Mark Frost & David Lynch gave me a Green Butt Skunk, and I couldn’t be more thankful.
If there is one rule in 2017, it is to not get political with strangers. At any moment things can get ugly. You live in your bubble and I live in mine. Its the law. We try really hard not to burst any bubbles around here. I will not take a stand on politics, but I will say, no matter which side of the stream you were swimming on in May 2017, there was probably only one thing on your mind: The state of our country. Things were bad in May, they are worse in August. Again, no matter what side you are on, chances are, you think the other side is really, really wrong. What could possibly turn our segregated heads? A Green Butt Skunk.
Frost & Lynch dropped that lure into the waters of television and the school of television fans, starving for something new, changed direction and all swam together. Yes, even me, who had theories that contradicted with EVERYONE ELSE. (I still wanna believe that Richard Horne is from Johnny, but I doubt even the Red Room small gold ball can make that happen.) The distraction I was given this summer has been so much fun. So rewarding.
Every Sunday night, I was taken away to another world…and sometimes multiple worlds. Afterwards my Twitter, Facebook and Instagram feed was filled with theories, pictures, quotes and Memes. It was nice to see us all wondering where the music was. Wondering where Big Ed was. Heck, just plain getting to wonder was a gift. Not knowing is fun, isn’t it? What’s the fun in knowing? You want to KNOW something, turn on the news. Was that fun?
That has always been my favorite part of Twin Peaks. As I write this, we are days away from the ending of Twin Peaks: The Return (TPR). I don’t know if we will get answers, but I am kind of hoping we don’t. Just dangle another lure in front of me and make me swim in another direction.
On September 4th, we will go back to a life without a sprawling mystery to wonder about. I will deeply miss my Sunday routine. I will miss my Monday morning, afternoon and evening calls with my Twin Peaks friends in different time zones. Arguing about gold orbs, if the Nine Inch Nails song was too long, or discussing a fake website that you could actually go to. How about the people that typed in the coordinates to find where Mr. C was going to? I love those people. It was all just so much fun. It was a television experience that will never be repeated because it can’t. No other show will wait 25 years to answer a question like Who’s Judy. I think its The America girl, or the girl in 1945, or Diane or I think its Laura…no Sarah. (See what I mean. It is fun not knowing.)
So we will all go back to our lives, and will, of course, still talk about Twin Peaks. John Thorne, Courtenay Stallings, the Blue Rose Magazine staff and I are just getting started with our analysis of this 18 part fishing lure. There is line from the new series that took place in a scene that I will eventually dissect in an upcoming essay. It was from my favorite new characters in TPR, The Mitchum Brothers.
People are under a lot of stress. TPR relieved it for a moment, changed the story in my mind and gave me the most fun experience I ever had watching a piece of art on television. Will there be things to pick apart and argue about? Of course, it wouldn’t be Twin Peaks if there wasn’t. Some of it is supposed to please us, some of it is suppose to enrage us and some of it is just to distract us from our lives.
So to Mark Frost, David Lynch and Sabrina Sutherland I say, “Thank you so much for my gift. It worked. You caught me. Hook. Line and Green Butt Skunk Sinker.”
Scott Ryan is the managing Editor of the Twin Peaks Magazine, The Blue Rose. Order the Dougie Special to get all 4 issues. Follow on Twitter.
Tribute to FWWM25
I wrote this for the 20th anniversary of Fire Walk With Me. I was going to update it, but decided it is more fun to see how much Twin Peaks has changed in only 5 years. I have added new commentary in parenthesis. One thing that has not changed in 25 years, FWWM is my all time favorite Lynch movie and one of my top 5 films of all time. It is beautiful, moving and has the single best acting performance ever captured on film. Let’s find out if I said the same thing 5 years ago…
For this essay, I thought I would focus on FWWM’s legacy in the world of David Lynch. This movie has been reviewed many times and 20 years later we are still trying to figure it out. How cool is that? All of his movies are a bit of a head scratcher, but this one should be a breeze. It is set BEFORE the series ever begins, so we already know the plot as back story. Also, it is based on a character that an entire book was written about, The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer. Still it was a shock and surprise to critics and Lynch fans back in 1992. This year being the 20th year, there have been all kinds of revivals on the subject of Lynch films and characters. I believe FWWM is the best David Lynch movie ever made. It is his masterpiece. It has everything a Lynch film needs.
1. Horror – BOB behind her dresser drawer is the scariest thing ever. (My sister called me after seeing this scene literally screaming and crying.)
2. Creepy characters – The old woman at Fat Trout Trailer Park makes her presence felt in less than 30 seconds of film.
3. Dreams – Laura’s dream where she ends up in the picture hanging on her wall haunts me to this day. (OK, how freaking cool is it that now we know she is actually inside the Convenience Store? I often thought it was the gateway to the Red Room, never considered she was above the Store. I don’t ever remember anyone else saying that either- SR 2017)
4. Split story structures – Lynch loves to drop us into a linear story and then rip us out with his bare hands. The scene with David Bowie cuts together years of a story in a few moments.
5. Love – (Yes, all of his movies are about love.) When BOB leaves Leland for that brief moment before bed and he visits his daughter’s room to tell her that he loves her is a moment of the purist love of all.
If it is quintessential Lynch, then why is it not beloved like Blue Velvet or lauded with awards like Mulholland Drive? Simple, movie watchers are dumb. OK, maybe that is a little harsh. How about I say uneducated? (Again, look how things have changed. No critics or Twin Peaks fans say they don’t like FWWM. In just 5 years time that has totally been washed away. SR 2017)
The trick to FWWM is being very knowledgeable about Twin Peaks. That is asking a lot of someone who just popped in a DVD to watch after the kids went to bed. (DVD? Streaming is the future, Scott – SR 2017) Critics who say Lynch just throws things up on the screen that make no sense have not paid close enough attention. In a very early scene of the movie, FBI director Gordon Cole shows Agent Chet Desmond a dancing girl named Lil.
She dances in place with one hand in her pocket and shows her tailored dress off while wearing a blue rose. Chet looks at it and moves on. In the following scene his partner, Sam, asks him about the dancing girl. Chet goes on to explain each detail of the girl and how that pertains to the case. To me (and I admit, I didn’t get this the first time I watched the movie) this was Lynch telling us: Everything I show you matters and has a meaning. The dancing was referring to leg work. The tailored dress referred to drugs. The Blue Rose? He can’t tell us about that. (I can, in 2017 we know what the Blue Rose is. It is a magazine that…oh, it also is a Task force that Gordon was on the first case of. See, we know so much more in 5 years. SR 2017) Leaving the viewer intrigued. The jaded viewer may say, that is dumb, why have that dancing girl? It is weird just to be weird, even if they explain it. Except, we know that Gordon Cole has a hearing problem and talks loud. It makes sense for him to give his direction with code. Everything in a Lynch movie means something.
On a personal level, I have to admit an oddity. I watched this movie every year on my birthday. Creepy I know, but why? The reason plain and simple is Sheryl Lee’s performance.
The story of Laura Palmer is really fascinating. If Laura doesn’t die none of us meet her. She had to die to bring Twin Peaks to life. She had to die to escape a horrible existence. The reason you watch most movies is to see the end, but this movie you know the end before you hit play. She dies. Come to think of it, why isn’t this movie the number one grossing movie of all time instead of Titanic? Everyone knew the boat sank, everyone knew Laura Palmer dies. It is inevitable. It takes the idea of fatalism and the meaningless of life to levels that Kierkegaard never dreamed of. I see all of that in Sheryl Lee’s performance. I believe that her performance in this movie is the best female acting job ever put on film. (I had a feeling I thought this 5 years ago. SR 2017) Her huge cry when she goes to Donna’s house asking if Donna is her best friend. Her amazing smile of innocence when she simmers an angry Bobby outside of the school. Her abusive and scary behavior as she threatens Harold Smith. Her losing all control as her father and the One Armed Man argue in the car. Her seductive actions at the Roadhouse where she can even make the name BUCK seem sexy. I can not think of another role for a woman that covered so many levels. And if you know Sheryl please tell her the Red Room is awaiting an interview about this acting job. (OK, this is just mean. 5 years later and still nothing. I feel like I am in a play called Waiting for Ga’Lee. SR 2017)
So why are we still obsessed with this movie 20 years later? (25 now) Simple. It is art. 20 years means nothing to Sunday on the Island of La Grande Jatte. 20 years isn’t a drop in the bucket to Bach’s “Wachet Auf.” I believe that FWWM is a moving painting. It is a piece of art that needs to be looked at, studied, and is meant to horrify us. It is a reflection of a society that hides its darkness under small town goodness. I know that this movie still causes rifts in the Twin Peaks fan base; although over the last couple years it is not as controversial as before, but I will make a bold statement. If you don’t love FWWM then you are not a Twin Peaks fan. (Wait till I find out that when Twin Peaks: The Return happens, it will actually all happen again. SR 2017) What you are is a television fan, and that is OK. But when you truly have Twin Peaks in your blood, as in owls, scorched engine oil and Douglas Firs in your veins, then FWWM is just the cure you need to help wash away the dreck of movies that will be released this year. (And it gets so much worse once Hollywood only makes Comic book movies. SR 2017) Movies you will see, forget and never ask the question: why the hell did that monkey just say Judy? I thought we weren’t gonna talk about Judy.
I have to admit, 5 years later, I stand behind that essay. There are only 3 hours left of TPR and I would still say FWWM is my favorite section of Twin Peaks. When TPR references FWWM I think the show comes alive. Probably by the time most of you read this, we knew who Judy was. I kind of like that 5 years ago, I didn’t even think there was a chance I would ever find out. Happy Birthday, FWWM. You don’t look a day over 20.
Scott Ryan is the managing Editor of the Twin Peaks Magazine, The Blue Rose. Order the Dougie Special to get all 4 issues. All Day August 28th The Blue Rose Facebook Page will post a picture an hour to celebrate #FWWM25
New Podcast: Twin Peaks Part 14
Scott Ryan and Josh Minton discuss Part 14 of Twin Peaks: The Return. We talk about Andy the hero, Sarah the…??? and we talk a bit about fans who are hating on Twin Peaks. tsk, tsk. Those who are hating it all are missing out on a great ride. Scott does wonder about the Freddie scene, but again pauses final judgement until the end of part 18. Listen to the podcast here or head out to iTunes.
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Twin Peaks Weekend Video
The Blue Rose spent the weekend in Snoqualmie, Washington with a bunch of crazy Twin Peaks Fans. We had fun, hugged, laughed and did some good. We were able to raise $300 for the Catherine Coulson Welcome Fund. This was our first time helping out The Oregon Shakespeare Festival. We plan to continue to assist them as they carry on “The Log Lady’s” legacy.
Watch the video which uses a song Scott Ryan wrote in 2015. Share and spread the word of the love that Twin Peaks’ fans have for the world created by Mark Frost and David Lynch. Watch the passion of all these people, who submitted pictures through The Blue Rose Task Force Group. Just like Twin Peaks, all are welcome and all our family. Press Play and let the ear worm begin.
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Podcast: Twin Peaks Parts 11-13
The Red Room returns to Twin Peaks for parts 11-13. David Bushman, author of Twin Peaks FAQ and curator at the Paley Center, joins Scott and Josh for the talk. Topics include, Audrey, the use of nostalgia in The Return, editing and the purpose of the Owl Ring. For those of you who were angered by Scott’s complaint about the Log Lady editing from part 10, might be surprised at what his comments are now.
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