Massillon Plays for the Ring

I don’t remember the first time I walked into Paul Brown Tiger Stadium. I was just a kid. It was the seventies. I have no idea what game it was, who won, or how old I was. But I do know where I sat. Section 14. Row S. Seat 4. How can I know that if I don’t know where or when the game was and I was just a little kid? Because I have never sat in any other row. My father became a Massillon Tigers season ticket holder in the sixties and he always sat in Section 14. Row S. Seat 1. My mother in Seat 2. My brother in Seat 3. And eventually, when I was old enough, I parked in Seat 4. I didn’t understand what was going on in the game, but I loved seeing the real Tiger in the cage, I loved hearing the band, I loved watching the adults around me get excited. When they stood up and cheered, I stood up and cheered. I always brought my binoculars with me, not so I could see the game better, but so I could pretend I was a cameraman who was filming the game for television. I always wanted to be a part of the Tigers in some way. For me, it was to pretend I was covering the game for ABC sports.

The occupants of those four seats can basically tell the story of the ups and downs of the Ryan family tree. Who was in the family and who was out. Who was healthy or not. So many people rotated around those seats. Children created children and they took seats, bringing friends and lovers. Other people have photo albums, in Massillon; you have ticket stubs. (Well, you used to, now you have some stupid thing on your phone that may or may not scan. Who misses the orange playoff ticket? Anyone? I’ve gotten off track.) The point is the occupants of those seats may not remain a constant in my life, but the Tigers always have. There isn’t one person still sitting in any of the adjacent seats who were there when I was going to the games as a kid. They have all either passed away or gave up the dream. But I’m still there, still believing in the goal. It’s always been the Tigers. Currence, Maronto, Owens, Rose, Shephas, Stacy, Hall, and now, Nate Moore. All the head coaches during my time. At least that is a higher number than the numbers of wives that have sat with me at the games.

While I may not remember every game I saw, I sure remember the 100th Massillon-McKinley game. Of course, I remember Moeller’s Hail Mary pass and their last second win. I remember crying. I recently told Becca Moore this story about crying when we lost that game. I looked up the game to see how old I was since I cried. I figured I was 10. Oops, I was 22. I know there is no crying in baseball, but did Tom Hanks ever weigh in on football? I remember that time we scored over 100 points and somehow Massillon got in trouble for that. One thing that has never changed is how the media covers Massillon. There is no accomplishment that can’t be held against us in a court of words.

I vividly remember when St. Ignatius scored 35 points right away in what has to be the worst beating Massillon ever took in an opening quarter. I remember it more than any other game because it was the last game that my dad sat in those seats with me. He was gone by the next game. In Massillon, losing a parent means the transfer of the tickets. What was his became mine and someday what is mine will become my son’s. It was strange to see the first game without my dad. And it was heartbreaking that he never got to see Massillon win a playoff regulation State Championship. We got to watch the 1982 and 2005 state championship game together, but we didn’t see a win. Even with all the years of him being gone, I have still held on to his hope of Massillon winning one on the field as diligently as I have held onto his season tickets. Section 14. Row S. Seats 1-4. This Thursday a trigeneration wish can come true. My father to me to my son. The Massillon Tigers are playing for a state championship and this time, they are favored to win.

The 2023 Massillon Tiger Team, surrounded by the alumni, at the Thanksgiving Practice.

So it’s true that I didn’t have a choice in going to the Massillon games when I was a little kid, I’ve certainly, actively, chosen to go since 1988 when I was officially an adult. I went to the games when I lived in Massillon, went to the games when I lived in Columbus and now I stream the games from Florida. Last year I drove from Florida to see Hoban beat Massillon in the State Semi’s. Then drove back the next day. That is dedication. Actually that is stupidity, it was Thanksgiving weekend and traffic was horrible. We ended the season on a loss last year, exactly as we have done each and every year that I have gone to the games. It always hurts. Your hopes are so damn high and then it is pulled away from you like a magician pulling a tablecloth off a perfectly set table. Except that all the dishes break and the candelabra sets the whole damn world on fire. It hurt each time a Catholic school ended our season in the State Championship games of 2018, 2019 and 2020. It hurts every time that clock hits zero and the season is over. Each time I swear I won’t get sucked into the dream again. Then, next season happens and I’m back watching everyone shake their heads when I say, “I swear I’ll only have a sip.” I can’t just have a sip, I want the whole bottle.

In each of those years, I have never let my imagination go to that moment of the clock ticking down with a win. Not only have we never won the championship on the field, we’ve never won it in my mind. Let’s imagine there is a State Championship game and it’s the fourth quarter and Massillon is up by three scores and there is only a minute left. The clock goes 10, 9, 8, and by it hits 7, my mind shuns the thought away. I don’t know what I would do if we won. I don’t even know how to imagine it. How do you imagine something that you have never experienced and you’ve waited 53 years for? I do know that it won’t really change anything. My dad won’t know we won. People who hate Massillon will still hate Massillon. The town will still want to beat McKinley in 2024 and go undefeated again. Nothing will change. And also: everything will change. 10, 9, 8, 7 … NO! Not yet. In 5 days.

Be sure to watch Becca Moore and Scott Ryan on the Youtube Series: Tiger Talk

For the past two years I have been able to host a weekly series called Tiger Talk. I get to interview head coach of the Massillon Tigers Nate Moore and two players every week with my dear friend and co-host Becca Moore. Becca doesn’t understand the kindness she has given me by agreeing to do this show. She has welcomed me into the Tiger’s inner circle. Nate and her have trusted me to do skits, ask silly questions, and shine a positive light on everything I love about being a Massillon Tiger fan. That little kid who used to bring his binoculars to every game, wishing to be a part of the Tigers, now doesn’t have to pretend anymore. I am hosting a show about it. My dad never got to watch the show, but my Mom, my son, my wife, and my Aunt get to. The score is all about winning, but the game is all about family. The Tigers will try to win for my family and all the families that are just like mine. So what will winning be like? How can I know? It’s never happened before. One thing I do know, I won’t be able to take just a sip of that feeling of finally winning after 53 years. I will drink down the whole experience. Then I will return to Section 14. Row S. Seat 1.

Go Tigers. Beat Hoban.

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Joe Dougherty Interview

Screenwriter Joseph Dougherty (thirtysomething, Pretty Little Liars) has written a new book about writing. They say write what you know, and Joe has over 30 years of experience on writing television and movies. He joins host Scott Ryan to talk about Joe’s new book: A Screenwriter’s Companion that will take readers and future writers through the steps, the heartbreaks and the successes of being a writing. With how to exercisers and stories from his work on thirtysomething and Pretty Little Liars, this book has everything a writer needs to start his journey. You can ordered a signed copy by Joe, by clicking here. (You can also pick up thirtysomething at thirty where Joe wrote the Afterword.)

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The Writers of Hacks on HBOMAX Clubhouse

Episode 195 of The Red Room Podcast is another Clubhouse appearance hosted by KJ Matthews and co-hosted by Scott Ryan. They welcome the writers from Hacks, Lucia Aniello, Paul W. Downs, Jen Statsky. The series is nominated for 15 Emmys including best writing. That is our topic in the Writing For Life Room on Clubhouse.

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Moonlighting Clubhouse with Glenn Caron

Clubhouse is a new app where everyone can interact together. If you are old, like me, don’t worry about it. You can just listen to what happened on the newest episode of The Red Room Podcast. KJ Matthews and Desiree Duffy interview Moonlighting creator Glenn Gordon Caron about writing Moonlighting and Scott Ryan about writing about Moonlighting in Episode 194. This aired on Clubhouse which allows people to ask questions. You can purchase the book Moonlighting: An Oral History which sparked the topic and listen to the conversation below.

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Fire Walk With Me Book Blog Part 1

In May 2022 my new book Fire Walk With Me: Your Laura Disappeared will be released. Over the next few months, I will be giving readers a sneak peek at this 30th anniversary look at David Lynch’s film in the Twin Peaks franchise.

Over the July 4th weekend, I took a trip back to Twin Peaks. No, I didn’t pop in the DVDs or stream it for the last time on Netflix.  I boarded a plane and flew to Snoqualmie, Washington, the filming site of FWWM. In September 1991, director David Lynch and his cast and crew filmed around the sleepy Washington area. One of the places they filmed was at Olallie state park which became the setting for much of Deer Meadow, the first half hour of the film. I used my vaccination and Washington state’s 70% vaccine rate to justify my first trip back to this location in a few years. My first trip to the area was captured in my 2015 documentary A Voyage to Twin Peaks. [This 35 minute look at the final year of the Twin Peaks fan festival is available for rent on Amazon.] It is such a rare opportunity for a television fan to get to visit the filming locations and feel like you are actually in a fictional town that you watched on your home screen. Most TV shows film in a sound stage so there isn’t much opportunity to visit the actual locations.

The location of the autopsy of Teresa Banks, now with a sign saying Private Property.

At Olallie state park, you can see the exterior of the Deer Meadow Sheriff station, and if you are invited in, the interior as well. In 2015, I got to go inside and see Sheriff Cable’s office and the waiting room where the secretary didn’t have coffee, but had a phone with a little ring. The house used to be the Ranger’s station, and even had a WiFi router called Deer Meadow.  They were happy to allow entry to fans of FWWM. Things had changed since my last visit. The small house now seemed to be a residence and had signs posted in the front, back, and side explaining this was private property. So approaching the building where Chet and Sam conducted the Teresa Banks autopsy was not a good idea, unless you wanted to meet the actual local authorities. 

The river that Teresa Banks floats down while wrapped in plastic.

Instead, I walked down to the river and saw the location where Banks’s body floated down the river. I walked through the woods and saw Jack Rabbit’s palace from Twin Peaks: The Return, the tree that Alicia Witt’s character huddled behind, and the spot where Laura and Bobby buried Deputy Cliff’s body. (Or the half-hearted attempt to bury it. I mean seriously how did this body never show up? Must have been the three sticks Bobby put on his body.) In my upcoming book, I interview Ron Garcia who was the director of photography for the film. He tells a great story about filming in these woods and how he tussled with Lynch on this scene. Garcia says, “I think I was just ornery that night.”

Jack Rabbit’s Palace has seen better days. It has crumbled since the filming of The Return.

This was just one of the places I visited to get new photos for the book. I am planning on offering a full color version of the book which readers will only be able to get when they are ordered through the Blue Rose or FMP websites. The rest of the outlets will have a black and white, pod version so this might be a reason to not order from the American church of Amazon. If you already placed the order from me, you will get the color version, providing we can make it happen. It will depend on preorders and interest in the book. I am working on a few other surprises, but I can’t tell you about that. 

Part 2 covers my overnight stay at the Salish. Thanks for supporting all my projects and remember to order the Art issue of the Blue Rose which Blake Morrow, The Women of David Lynch cover, is curating. Maybe he will print one of my pictures from the bottom of the falls? Doubtful, I don’t have that kind of pull. 

 Thanks, Scott

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Martha Nochimson’s Moonlighting Book Review

REVIEW by Martha P. Nochimson of  Moonlighting, An Oral History, by Scott Ryan.  Fayetteville Mafia Press, 2021.  

Author of Screen Couple Chemistry: The Power of 2, Television Rewired.

Everyone knows—and says—that television is a collaborative medium.  But let’s be honest, folks.  We experience, talk about, and remember that most collaborative of television entertainments, the serial, as if it were as unified in nature as the novel, the closest we ever get to a fictional world that emerges from a single imagination.  Getting beyond the cliché to a meaningful encounter with the many individuals it takes to produce a series requires a vivid, engaging, comprehensive production history, and, alas, they are rare.  Writing such a production history demands a singular talent for detail, an even more unique ability to stand back and let the facts speak for themselves, and that wild, almost mythic, unicorn:  ACCESS.  Access.  It is essential to locate and speak with a very large sampling of the members of the series production team.  Happily, all these requisites grace Scott Ryan’s Moonlighting, An Oral History

Ryan has put together a rich collection of witnesses to the five season saga that was the ABC television series Moonlighting (1985-1989), no mean feat, since as with most production histories, this one has come into existence long after the show stopped producing new episodes.  Not only has he located members of the cast and crew, now dispersed to the four corners of the world, but, out of the totality of the production team, which after many years of creative collaboration was the size of a small country, he has had the talent and good luck to have corralled the select citizens who have actual, first hand juicy knowledge.  In his oral history, you will encounter the memories of the creator, the stars, and the many key collaborators who are responsible for one of the benchmarks of television history.  Against all odds, after almost three decades, they remember.  And Ryan has asked all the right questions.

Either you have memories of Moonlighting, or you should learn about it now.  It is crucial television.  The madcap saga of Maddie Hayes (Cybill Shepherd) and David Addison (Bruce Willis), created by wild and unconventional Glenn Gordon Caron; it was both an against-all-odds raging success and one of the most troubled productions ever to blaze a shimmering the path through the television heavens.  Dazzlingly imaginative, it not only rode the cresting wave of mid-1980’s feminism, it gave it intensity and direction.  Some of us remember that once upon a time the mass media were unable to conceive of a woman who was competent, strong, and sexual all at the same time.  Moonlighting supplied a new template.  Maddie, played by the dream girl of the era, Cybill Shepherd, was all that and a bag of chips.  Topped by a cloud of golden hair, she was no dumb blonde. She was a powerhouse.  Some of us also remember the days when Bruce Willis was an uncredited extra in short movies and an episode of Miami Vice.  Moonlighting made his career take flight; David Addison was his breakout role.  It established him as a major presence in the media and his fearless, wiseguy persona as a new masculine model.  

Moonlighting also had a new take on the attraction of opposites.  Neither the story of the female ditz and the serious guy, as in Born Yesterday, nor the combustion of liberal woman colliding with conservative man, as in Adam’s Rib; Moonlighting was the erratic, erotic two step of gendered power.  Maddie was a sophisticated, elegant and successful former model whose business manager had absconded with her fortune leaving her with only her tax write off, a down at heels detective agency with which she had no previous acquaintance.  David was the somewhat mangy agency detective, street smart and wise cracking, a complete stranger.  In Maddie’s eyes, very strange indeed.  Their accidental meeting made them into a heterosexual buddy pair; an affirmation of the ordinary savvy guy and the exceptional woman.  The series was filled with electricity, fun, witty dialogue, and sexual tension.  

The chorus of voices that sing from the pages of Ryan’s oral history capture the initial excitement, often amounting to delirium, of the people making the incandescent series, and the pain and sorrow of the jagged creative and personal discord that tore it apart and doomed it.  Ryan makes it possible for us to hear from Caron, Willis, and Shepherd, many key writers and directors, and Allyce Beasley and Curtis Armstrong, two sweetly creative mainstays of the supporting cast.  I will trust you to get this wonderful book, and delve into its pages to discover from multiple perspectives the ironic details of the behind the scenes machismo of this onscreen feminist fantasy.  It will make you privy to the details of the early hopes and elation when the series began; the mutiny that ejected Caron from his elevated position of showrunner when the seas got very turbulent;  and the courage, dedication, and bewilderment of those who kept the show lively and afloat through its very stormy voyage.  It’s a three dimensional, surround sound experience.  

And it has a point.  Scott Ryan achieves a critical breakthrough as a result of all the behind the camera information he has amassed.   His work mounts a challenge to the false public discourse about the problems that haunted the saga of Maddie and David, providing a map and a flashlight to guide us past some very hasty and flawed conclusions.  The brotherhood of entertainment journalists of the time—and it was a boys’ club–proclaimed that the reason Moonlighting was cancelled prematurely had to do with the mismanagement of the sexual tension built up between odd couple David and Maddie.  The group wisdom became that it was a strategic miscalculation for Caron to give the audience a literal climax to David and Maddie’s mutual desire in a rip roaring sex scene that propelled them wildly down a staircase.  According to the brotherhood, Caron should have prolonged the longing ad infinitum. Never mind that Shepherd and Willis had given America the fourth of July moment it was waiting for.  Never mind that the moment met all expectations and then some.  (There’s some interesting information in the oral history about how dangerous the scene proved to be for Willis and Shepherd, if you want to know.)  

The critics simply decided that they knew best.  Well, it was true that immediately after Maddie and David’s high high, the couple separated, which was indeed inexplicable to the audience—and disappointing.  However, when the critical chorus coined a catchy phrase, “the Moonlighting curse,” it needlessly led to decades of show creators living in fear of writing marriages into their episodes or even their versions of “the big bang” lest their shows immediately tank, while the public nodded sagely, in misinformed agreement.   Ryan’s oral history shows that there was no solid basis for any certainty that the flatness of the morning after, so to speak, arose from gratifying the desires of Maddie, David, and the audience.  

In fact, what the oral history does make clear is that the wild abandon of the big night was not the problem.  The many articles blaming the sex scene for the show’s demise constitute a case of the post hoc ergo proctor hoc logical fallacy.    In English this means that just because an incident occurs before a disaster it doesn’t mean that it is the cause of the disaster.  Evidence of a connection is needed.  Ryan has provided the evidence that there was little or no connection.  From the interviews he conducted, we can see that the show had already been irreparably destabilized by anger and unresolved feuds.  We can also see that creatively, the main arc of the series was right on track with its funny, sexy, unique night of passion.  It was a bright light in the midst of the dark production chaos. The writers had plans that would have cleared a path for many more years of Maddie and David if personal and creative issues had not stymied them.  You will want to read Ryan’s clear and convincing argument that the wrong lessons were learned from the collapse of the once delectable Moonlighting.

I loved the Maddie and David shenanigans.  The spirited onscreen rapport of the actors was infectious and the episodes were filled with too many wonderful inventions to mention in this brief review.   “The Dream Sequence Always Rings Twice,” giving Maddie’s and David’s different perspectives filmed in black and white in a 1940’s style, and “Atomic Shakespeare” in which the entire episode parodies Shakespeare’s play The Taming of the Shrew in iambic pentameter are two of the most delightful innovations, but there are many more.  Have those happy memories been clouded by this fraught production history?  No, no, and no.  Rather, it has reminded me of the wonderful evenings of long ago that I spent watching Moonlighting and given them back to me with new depth and insight.

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Listen to Scott interview Martha about her book on the Red Room Podcast as they have a great conversation about Twin Peaks: The Return.

Just 1 Tiger Fan

I have often been told, (well, made fun of,) that I am guilty of living for the Massillon Tigers High School football team. I don’t live for them. I am alive because of them. And I’m just one Tiger fan among thousands. Massillon, Ohio is where football was born—me, too. The Massillon Tigers and the McKinley Bulldogs have the oldest rivalry in the country. They were the first 2 pro teams created and have now morphed into high school teams. They have played 130 times since 1894. (That isn’t a typo, I meant the actual 1800s.) I am a Massillon fan. McKinley is my sworn enemy. I don’t wear Red and Black ever, and I hardly even wear red at all. I wear, and bleed, Orange and Black only.

In 48 hours, the Massillon Tigers will have the chance to do something they have never done in their storied history. They can win a state championship on the football field. They have won 24 newspaper titles back in the days when sports writers picked the winning teams. The time before 1970. The time before me.

This Thursday, December 5th, they will play Cincinnati Lasalle in the Division 2 state championship game. This will be their 5th attempt to win at states on the field in the last 49 years. I have been at 4 of the 5 attempts. All have ended in losses. But this time…

I have been going to the games since as far as I can remember. My dad, mom, brother and I went and sat in Section 14, Row S, Seats 1-4. That started for me in the late 70s. My parents had those seats years before that. In the 80s, my brother stopped going and my first wife went with us. In the 90s, a McKinley fan sat behind us and started a fight with the people next to us. My mom never went to another game again.

A Massillon McKinley game in the late 90s. With my Dad and my friend.

When I had twins in the late 90s, my first wife stopped going and just my dad and I went. Once a year, we brought the twins for the first half and my wife took them home. In the late 2000s, my dad and I took both twins until just my son came with us. When I got divorced it was just dad and son till 2008 when my dad died. My son and I went together for a few years until my second wife started to come with us. We drive from Columbus every week. A 4-hour, round-trip drive back to my hometown to see the Tigers. We had to get extra seats so we could bring her kids too. That lasted 4 years until all the kids graduated from school, and then it was just my second wife and I. That has lasted up till 2019—this year. This year the Tigers have gone undefeated and earned a spot in the state championship game. This time?

My wife and I at a rainy game last year.

I have asked my grown son to come back from Chicago to go to the game with us. My wife, my son and I will go—and watch—and see—if for the first time since I was on the planet they can win a state championship. For 49 years, I have ended each year experiencing a loss. Basically, 50 years of learning to deal with loss and then picking up and starting over with hope for another year. 49 years of starting over—and cheering—and supporting—and sitting in the same seat that my father sat in.

This year, we could end with a win. The town could win. The team could win. I could win. I would have to learn to live with being on the winning side. That will be something new.

I don’t live for the Tigers. I live because of them. When you grow up with something in your family since your birth, you don’t often discuss it with your family. The fact that I am at the games every Friday night is not something worth talking about with my mom. There is nowhere else I would be. In talking to her about the upcoming game, I learned a family fact that I never knew. In 1967, my dad placed a bet on the Massillon-McKinley game. The Tigers won 20-15. He took the money and bought an engagement ring. He asked my mom to marry him and she said, “Yes.” A year later my brother was born. 3 years later Massillon won their final “paper” state championship, and I was born. It’s been 49 years since then. Thursday is waiting. Massillon is waiting. Maybe somewhere my dad is waiting. My son, my wife and I will be there waiting. Believing. Cheering. Hoping. Supporting. Win or Lose, I know where I will be next year. Where I have always been: Section 14. Row S. Seats 1-4. Go Tigers.

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Scott Ryan is the author of The Last Days of Letterman, thirtysomething at thirty and the upcoming book about Moonlighting. He is also the managing editor of The Blue Rose magazine and a co-founder of FMP publishing. He has written more about the Tigers in his ebook, Scott Luck Stories. Follow on Twitter:@scottluckstory

Podcast: Elaine Stritch “Still Here” with Alexandra Jacobs

Scott Ryan interviews Alexandra Jacobs about her new biography,The Madcap, Nervy, Singular Life of Elaine Stritch.

They discuss Elaine Stritch’s career which included Company, 30 Rock, Follies in Concert and just about a million other film, television and theater projects. Alexandra explains how she got the idea for the book and all the people she interviewed. (Scott doesn’t even get jealous when she says she interviewed Sondheim….or does he?)

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Listen to the introduction to The Women of Amy Sherman-Palladino

 

The Women of Amy Sherman-Palladino: Gilmore Girls, Bunheads, Mrs. Maisel contains 14 essays by 14 different writers. They cover the female characters from the above mentioned series. You can now listen to writer Scott Ryan read his opening essay: An introduction: 3 Pilots +  1 Funny Girl = Multitudes of Amy’s. Click the play button below to hear the opener. You can order the book now.

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Last Days of Letterman Interview

Scott Ryan guests on The John Deptro show to discuss the Last Days of Letterman. Click on the youtube video below to listen to this Radio appearance from April 16, 2019. John asks Scott about the final 6 weeks, David Letterman’s legacy with Johnny Carson and about some of the guests from the final 28 shows.

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